Friday, September 28, 2012

How We Vote Impacts Our Salvation

I post a lot of Vortex episodes because Michael Voris expresses some thoughts that I couldn’t say better. Personally, I like his presentation as well as his words, but I know that his “style” is not everyone’s “cup of tea”.

That’s why I also post the scripts, or at least portions of them. Some people won’t watch the video, but they will read the words…and vice versa. On the Church Militant TV web page, there is almost always a link to the script for the Vortex; I just try to make it a little easier for you here.

In today’s Vortex, Michael Voris commends Bishop Paprocki on his clear statement that “to vote for a candidate who promotes actions or behaviors that are intrinsically evil and gravely sinful makes you morally complicit and places the eternal salvation of your own soul in serious jeopardy." (And I have also noted this bishop’s statement in two posts.)  

Voris adds some further thoughts, and I recommend watching the video (below), or reading the entire script here.

As a “teaser”, here’s an excerpt (my emphases):

No one who seriously believes in God – that Jesus Christ is God Almighty in human flesh – could entertain for the slightest instant the idea of voting for a supporter of child murder and sodomy. And the reason is because we have our heads screwed on correctly and our moral compasses pointed to heaven.

These acts are evil and they are individual actions that are committed against other individuals – not ethereal concepts like JUSTICE or POVERTY that need to be realized in the tangible here and now.

Of course, no one votes in favor of poverty; but since poverty isn’t an actual deed, it doesn’t begin to measure up to the action of chopping a child up in the womb and sucking out the remains with a vacuum cleaner. THAT is an action – a deed – and it is evil to the core.

No amount of rationalizing and high faulting academic babble can change that. It is what it is, and it is most definitely child murder. And to vote for a candidate who supports this unspeakable evil places that person squarely on the path to Hell.

Such a person becomes morally culpable in the killing because in our form of governance, the killing is brought into existence as a legal right by the people voted into office.


  1. Execution of a death sentence is certainly an intrinsic evil.

    Not feeding the starving is certainly an intrinsic evil.

    Not providing health care for all is certainly an intrinsic evil.

  2. I don't think so, Ned. There CAN be justification for the death sentence; the Church does not say it is necessarily an intrinsic evil.

    "Not feeding the starving" is not an intrinsic evil if one has no food with which to feed them! Also,in this country I sincerely doubt there are people who are truly starving. If there are, I know there are food banks that would help.Usually the issue is with people who are "hungry", not starving. Of course those who are able should help the poor and hungry, but the Gospel does not say we need to do that with government programs, if that's what you're implying.

    Not providing health care for all is NOT an intrinsic evil. I don't see any way that it could be construed that way. There's a lot of unnecessary stuff done in the name of "health care". The definition of what constitutes such care is way too open-ended to simply issue a blanket indictment of failure to provide it. E.g., artificial contraception is NOT health care.

    1. Explain how there can be justification for the death sentence? Why are the bishops always trying to get it done away with? Killing is killing!

      Where I live there are a thousand documented homeless children in the school system. If they did not get a free school breakfast and lunch they would be starving!
      The Gospel says we are to do it and since too many parishes are busy putting their money into upkeep of facilities, someone has to feed those in need of food.

      It is only those who see health care as a front for artificial contraception who also fail to see health care for those who are sick or dying for many reasons.

  3. You're overgeneralizing. The parish closest to me put A LOT of money into it's food bank, and serves a lot of people every week. Try to look at facts instead of letting loose with an emotional reaction. You're obviously not a faithful Catholic...why are you spending time on my blog?!?! Not that I mind, really. I hope you can find something to change your mind and bring you into communion with Christ and His One True Church.

  4. Ugh...commenting too early in the morning. I hate it when "it's" replaces "its" incorrectly... Let me rephrase that: "The parish closest to me putS a lot of money into ITS food bank..."

  5. The Catholic Church recognizes that the State has the right to use the death penalty. As a Catholic, to believe that capital punishment is a moral evil is to believe in error. St. Thomas Aquinas has even identified its purgatorial power. There can be purification in punishment.


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