Here’s
yesterday’s Vortex – fits in nice with my post on “criticizing” the Church,
wouldn’t you agree? Ha ha! MV always manages to say what’s on my mind!
The
full script is below, but I’ll give you some of the “money” quotes. For
instance, how do you know whether you’re attending a parish of the Church of
Nice? Well…
Don't forget light sabers as part of the litmus test... |
If you go to a parish replete
with altar girls, protestant hymns, an army of so-called “Eucharistic
ministers” (which they are NOT by the way); a joke-cracking priest; a
congregation receiving Holy Communion in their hands; warped catechesis coming
from the adult and/or kids’ religious ed department; no substantive preaching;
a congregation with more older people than younger families; and no one really
in between; where people around you – including you – dress in clothes more
suited for going to the movies than worshipping God; if almost the entire
congregation goes to Holy Communion, and a good number of them never return to
their seats afterwards; if it is customary to applaud the band or singers –
then you can be pretty certain, your parish is a Church of Nice.
You
might even be in a Diocese of Nice. That makes things really difficult, because
there’s no place to go where “niceness” isn’t the central value. I think I live
in such a diocese. At least, I was once told that the “content and attitude” of
my blog was “unacceptable for this Catholic Community here in Eastern Oregon”;
and that “in the Diocese of Baker we expect all of our Catholics to work
together to build up the Body of Christ.” But I think the prelate in question
meant that I was supposed to build up the Body of Niceness.
Anyway,
here’s MV’s litmus test for whether you’ve been “had” by the Church of Nice. He
suggests you ask yourself these questions:
What are is meant by the Four
Last Things and what are they?
What is wrong about using the
term Eucharistic Ministers?
What is an indulgence and why
is it important to know?
Can you explain why
Protestantism is a heresy? (Did you even know it IS a heresy?)
What are the various mysteries
of the Holy Rosary?
What does the Church mean by
the term “The Real Presence”?
What is the Mass?
Can you be a “good” Catholic
and still disagree with the Magisterium?
Do you even know what the word
Magisterium means?
Is it EVER possible to refuse
to believe an infallible teaching AND still be a good Catholic?
And
that’s just for starters, says MV. If
you don’t know why the issues listed in the first excerpt are problematic, and
you can’t answer all of the questions in the second excerpt, then, says MV, “you
need to be very concerned about your faith life.”
Here is
an appeal to any Catholic in the Church of Nice, or anyone who has a friend or relative
in the Church Nice: Please leave it now.
What is
the Church of Nice? It a worship community that sort of looks Catholic and
OFFICIALLY
is Catholic – but at the end of the day, authentic Catholicism has been sucked
out of it in almost every possible way.
There
are all kinds of signs you can look for to determine if your parish is a Church
of
Nice.
The
priest will never preach on anything controversial related to your eternal
life, like homosexuality, abortion, reception of Holy Communion as a divorced
and remarried parishioner.
He will
never utter a word about the immortal danger your soul is in if you are
co-habiting and/or having sex outside of marriage, or using contraception
INSIDE marriage.
Times
for Confession will be sparse, and practically none of the parishioners ever go
–including you.
If you
have been going to your Church of Nice parish for some years, you will
occasionally have the thought come to your mind that it seems like less and
less people attend.
You will
also notice that there are nowhere near as many young adults or families as you
remember from years ago. But the music director will bust out in a loud song
rich with lyrics about the community, instead of God, and you will forget your
thoughts about less people in the pews.
You
will also hear a strange thing from time to time about something the RCIA
instructor or Religious Ed director said in class and you will think to
yourself for a moment – “hmmm… that’s odd”, but then you will go on with your
business and forget about it.
Then
the occasional discussion will come up with friends and family who are former
Catholics
who bad mouth this or that about the Church – and while you might feel quietly uncomfortable
about their outbursts, you won’t say anything because, frankly, you don’t have
the knowledge to respond to them because it was never told to you.
And
eventually, you will allow yourself to be lulled into a false set of comfort
regarding their eternal lives by buying into the ridiculous diabolical canard
that it’s not REALLY important if they are Catholic or not; after all, they’re
basically good people and God understands and we are all going to Heaven anyway,
so it’s not that big a deal.
If you
go to a parish replete with altar girls, protestant hymns, an army of so-called
“Eucharistic
ministers” (which they are NOT by the way); a joke-cracking priest; a
congregation receiving Holy Communion in their hands; warped catechesis coming
from the adult and/or kids’ religious ed department; no substantive preaching;
a congregation with more older people than younger families; and no one really
in between; where people around you – including you – dress in clothes more
suited for going to the movies than worshipping God; if almost the entire
congregation goes to Holy Communion, and a good number of them never return to
their seats afterwards; if it is customary to applaud the band or singers –
then you can be pretty certain, your parish is a Church of Nice.
If you
have no idea why this list of issues are problematic, then you are almost
guaranteed to belong to the Church of Nice.
If you
don’t know the answers to the following basic questions, you should be
concerned:
What are is meant by the Four
Last Things and what are they?
What is wrong about using the
term Eucharistic Ministers?
What is an indulgence and why
is it important to know?
Can you explain why
Protestantism is a heresy? (Did you even know it IS a heresy?)
What are the various mysteries
of the Holy Rosary?
What does the Church mean by
the term “The Real Presence”?
What is the Mass?
Can you be a “good” Catholic
and still disagree with the Magisterium?
Do you even know what the word
Magisterium means?
Is it EVER possible to refuse
to believe an infallible teaching AND still be a good Catholic?
If you
can’t answer ALL of these questions – at least on some fundamental level – then
you need to be very concerned about your faith life. And this is just a beginning
list; it could easily have hundreds of questions on it.
What
the Church of Nice gang has been so fantastic at over the past 40 or 50 years –
and this means bishops and priests – is substituting knowledge with feelings. In
this manner, they have introduced into the faith a humanistic dimension that
has no place in the Church.
The
same madness that goes on in the culture about not being judgmental and always making
sure no one is offended has become paramount in the Church as well, thanks to the
Church of Nice crowd – hence the name, Church of NICE, where everyone is always
Nice.
If you
attend a parish that subscribes to the Church of Nice agenda – watch out. Your soul
is in jeopardy, serious jeopardy.
It is
very likely that your religious instruction is deficient, you haven’t been to
confession in God knows how long, and if you have children – they are bored out
of their minds and more than likely will stop attending Mass after they leave
home.
These
are all symptoms of a dying faith – and it can all be placed at the doorstep of
the Church of Nice.
The
Church of Nice is failing in spectacular fashion! It’s beginning to resemble
the Russian Front from the German’s perspective in World War II. It won’t be
much longer before the whole edifice is flat our overrun. As the Russian forces
– the Red Army – was overrunning town after town and province after province,
reclaiming all that had been taken by the Nazis in the previous two years, many
of the German High Command and the civilian population back in Berlin carried on
as though the eastern front was a sad fact, but not one they REALLY had to
worry about.
In
April 1945, the first Russian tanks crashed into the heart of Berlin. It took a
while, but when it happened, it was decisive and final.
This is
what is happening in the Church today – the portion of the Church, which is the
majority part of it – that worships at the Altar of Nice. It is being overrun
and the defeat is monumental. Two thousand US parishes closed in the last 20
years, 1300 of them in the past 10 years, with no end of closings in sight.
And why
has the Church of Nice risen to such heights of power and control? Because
fallen human nature is weak. Because most people don’t like confrontation and will
only occasionally do the right thing and challenge evil and wrong. Because
being vigilant – always vigilant – exacts a cost. And because sin is
attractive. And because we are lazy and slothful.
If it
were not for the Catholic Church, the whole world would end up in Hell, because
the
Catholic
Church is necessary for salvation. This is its charter – to be the instrument
of salvation – not merely a sign of salvation, but the actual instrument
through which God works His salvific action.
When
much of that Church casts aside that charter and adopts an inauthentic attitude
of
being
the Church of Nice, then the world will go out of balance – as it has – and the
eternal lives of those Church of Nice members hangs in the balance.
If you
attend a Church of Nice parish – get out of it and get to a parish where you
will get AUTHENTIC Catholicism – the real McCoy. If you have friends or family
who need to hear this, pass it along.
Hi Jay:
ReplyDeleteThere's a nice mention of you and your post on "Why We Need to Criticize...." on the Church Militant Facebook page :)
Ha ha, Elizabeth - I know! They were so kind to do that! And their FB page is quite powerful - that mention of my post generated A LOT of hits!
ReplyDeleteYes another Michael Voris nails it ....and oh how the TRUTH will set us free .
ReplyDeleteThe Church of Nice , so sad to see these state of affairs going on BUT there is HOPE ....
I will keep my eyes on Jesus and proclaim HIM and HIS TRUE CHURCH...never to embrace the Modern new catholicism which is sweeping across our land and the Church of Nice !
Go, Michael! Preach it!
ReplyDeleteI listen to him every day. I would LOVE to meet him some day and work with him.
"Altar girls"
So, girls can be Priests, right? Wrong.
"Holding hands during the Our Father"
What are we? Protestant? There is no good reason for doing that, other than the feeellll guuuud mentality, or as Michael says Church of nice.
"Extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion"
And what reason is there for an army of lay people distributing God? Are there hands consecrated? IF there is a need it should only be MEN who are Acolytes. Period. There rarely is a need anyway. So what if Mass is a little long and it take time for the Priests to distribute Communion? Why do we need to run away from Calvary? Oh, of course, it's so booorrrringgg. Riiight.
"Receiving Holy Communion in the hand"
We use our hands for practically everything. Why should we use them to feed God to ourselves? Can't we let us representatives feed Him to us? I mean, really. We sit around and wonder why so many Catholics don't even believe in the Real Presence. God isn't popcorn. You believe that little Host is God? Kneel down in adoration, in fear and trembling. Ohhh, but of course, we're adult Catholics.
God bless!
~Hannah
Somebody has done an *excellent* job teaching you, Hannah. :)
DeleteAwesome.
From this catechist to whomever that may be (parents, I suspect) I tip my imaginary cap!
I think I will show this to our five children.
God love you,
CKev
Haha well yes I did get solid teaching in RCIA.
DeleteI've studied and read a lot about the truth of the Faith. That's what I do more than anything!
I learn from and follow the leads of some of my favorite Clergy and laity.
So my imaginary hat goes off to the young, traditional Priests of today, Cardinals Burke and Piacenza, Archbishop Sample, Michael Voris, and Mrs. Boyd!
Keep up the good work all of you! :)
God bless!
~Hannah
BTW, Hannah.
DeleteI've been to see Michael (and some of his CMTV co-horts) twice here in southern Indiana.
Maichael, and all of the CMTV staff, were very humble and classy. A lot of fun to be around. Gracious folks, are they.
CKev
So jealous! That's great, though!
DeleteHe's amazing! :)
God bless.
~Hannah
Hannah, please email me! I'd like to have a more private conversation with you! drjayboyd@msn.com
ReplyDeleteI don't have an email right now. I was having problems with it and quit it. I have a chat room of my own, though, which is where people talk to me, if they want. I apologize.
ReplyDeleteIf any of you would like to talk to me, go here and type in a first name: http://us11.chatzy.com/78257044091005
God bless!
~Hannah
Nice Post! (Ha ha).
ReplyDeleteIs the Pope still Roman Catholic? If so, is he an "authentic" RC?
Were the previous two popes RC?
The sainthood of JP2 was recently announced. If JP2 was pope for so many years and is now going to become a saint, how is it that so much abuse of the mass exists?
Since these conditions have existed for so long in the US (decades) it seems impossible that the Popes would be unaware, especially JP2. Therefore, either the popes are complicit in the guilt (and should not be saints) or this isn't as big a deal as some are making it.
I find it VERY sad that so much energy and effort is being expended to denigrate our brethern. I wish there was unity. This division reminds me of the Northern and Southern Kingdoms. That didn't turn out so well for either.
Fred, the Pope cannot prevent liturgical abuse without the cooperation of the bishops, who need the cooperation of the priests, etc. JPII was aware of abuses. There were attempts to correct them, notably the instruction Redemptionis Sacramentum in 2004. There were also previous instructions about implementing some aspects of Vatican II.
ReplyDeleteWhether a person is a saint or not does not depend on how many mistakes he made in his life. St. Augustine is a saint who lived a life of dissolution for many years!
The conditions ARE a big deal. There is a crisis in the Church, and it is difficult to deny it by any measure that can be said to measure the "health" and "growth" of the Church.
"Denigrate our brethren"? I personally am not denigrating anyone. I'm asking for adherence to the rubrics of the Mass, and obedience to Church teaching in other areas of our lives. And I'm calling to accounts those bishops and priests who don't uphold Church teaching and who abuse the liturgy (or knowingly allow abuse to occur). Unity? When half of a group of people insist that black is white, while the other half insist that black is in fact black, there can be no unity. Our battle is not with other people, but with satan, who is using those people as his pawns. But that doesn't mean that the pawns don't need to be shaken to their senses.
The very *fact* that Redemptionis Sacramentum was published is, in fact, a siren from Rome telling priests (and bishops) to "Say the Black, do the Red" (as Fr. Z puts it).
ReplyDeleteUsing fREDS thought process, would not Rome be guilty of denigrating our brethren?
No. Rome and the CDW is now, and has been in the past, well aware of the abuses that have been inflicted upon the laity, religious and , yes, priests (who are victimized by modernist/progressive bishops).
Abuses of the Sacred Liturgy is a grave offense *firstly* towards Almighty God! To point these things out is a work of mercy.
Good for you, Dr. Boyd.
CKev