In
today’s (April 25) episode of the Vortex, Voris addresses a big, overlooked
problem: many people have left the Church, NOT because of the “oppressive” teachings
about sexual morality, but because the shepherds of the Church, along with many
of the sheep, are so lukewarm in the way they talk about it and live it.
Voris
says (my emphasis):
…after last night’s talk, a
mother and adult son came up afterward and started posing a series of questions
and comments.
They had ventured into a protestant
congregation where the mother said she just felt that she was being fed more than at the Catholic
parish she used to attend. She was more comfortable, she said, in this
community and for her children as well since they enjoyed the services at the protestant
assembly more.
So we talked for a while… about
the Real Presence of Our Lord in the Eucharist and so forth. As she talked more
and more it became clear that she didn’t reject any of that; she just never saw any evidence of it among
the priests and congregation at the Catholic parish she had attended a few
years earlier. She even pointed out that no one genuflected before going into
the pew.
Her word was that the faith
among Catholics was lukewarm, if
even that. And she’s right on many points. The faith has grown cold in many
Catholics. They have grown lukewarm towards Our Blessed Lord. The word indifferent springs to mind.
And this is a danger that never gets talked about very much in
the Church these days. So much attention is heaped on Catholics who leave the
Church because of the moral teachings – mostly about sexual issues – that
almost NO attention is focused on Catholics who leave because they are not being fed.
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Many Church leaders today seek
to straddle the fence – on the one hand, not wanting to say anything in
homilies that might offend the people or make them feel uncomfortable, while on
the other hand keeping up appearances at least of being faithful to Church teaching.
When
they do that, the result is homilies that sound like email forwards, or “shared”
posts on Face Book. And like the woman Michael Voris describes in the video,
many Catholics in these parts have jumped ship to a Protestant church because
of the lukewarm approach of our priests.
The
ones who are left in the Catholic pews are largely protestantized themselves.
They don’t act like they believe in the Real Presence; the sanctuary is like
Grand Central Station with all the lay ministers traipsing through it. Where is the awe and reverence due Our Lord? I
don’t see it in the parishes where I attend, or have visited. Where are the homilies defending the Catholic
beliefs that are being degraded and derided by the secular world? Again,
priests don’t want to offend anyone, for fear the collection plate will suffer –
or just because they don’t want to be unpopular.
This
always leaves me with a burning question: why do our shepherds bend over
backwards to placate those who ask for liturgical abuses and watered-down
teaching, but ignore the pleas of those who simply ask for what the Church
teaches? They are afraid the former will leave, but seem in a hurry to rush the
latter out the door.
Aren’t
our priests supposed to help us grow in holiness? Isn’t that their task as
pastors? But that’s not what I see. I see the lukewarm teaching Michael Voris
describes, and I see busy priests who succumb to the temptation to “go with the
flow” rather than challenge their parishioners to walk that path to holiness.
In so doing, these pastors sabotage the souls of the faithful, and their own
souls as well.
Don’t
try to tell me that they must do “the most good for the most people”, either. Jesus himself advocated doing what needs to be done for that one lost sheep. By allowing a parish to remain stuck in its protestantized lukewarm habits,
they are doing harm rather than good. They may have the good intention of
wanting to keep their flock from leaving the Church, but what good is a parish
full of lukewarm Catholics who don’t believe critical Church doctrine?
Here’s
the Vortex, with the full script below.
We’re
here in Melbourne giving a couple of talks to some very enthusiastic and
faithful groups of Catholics – a great blessing to be able to do so, we might
add. But after last night’s talk, a mother and adult son came up afterward and
started posing a series of questions and comments.
They
had ventured into a protestant congregation where the mother said she just felt
that she was being fed more than at the Catholic parish she used to attend. She
was more comfortable, she said, in this community and for her children as well
since they enjoyed the services at the protestant assembly more.
So we
talked for a while… about the Real Presence of Our Lord in the Eucharist and so
forth. As she talked more and more it became clear that she didn’t reject any
of that; she just never saw any evidence of it among the priests and
congregation at the Catholic parish she had attended a few years earlier. She
even pointed out that no one genuflected before going into the pew.
Her
word was that the faith among Catholics was lukewarm if even that. And she’s
right on many points. The faith has grown cold in many Catholics. They have
grown lukewarm towards Our Blessed Lord. The word indifferent springs to mind.
And
this is a danger that never gets talked about very much in the Church these
days. So much attention is heaped on Catholics who leave the Church because of
the moral teachings – mostly about sexual issues – that almost NO attention is
focused on Catholics who leave because they are not being fed.
Many
Church leaders today seek to straddle the fence – on the one hand, not wanting
to say anything in homilies that might offend the people or make them feel
uncomfortable, while on the other hand keeping up appearances at least of being
faithful to Church teaching.
The strategy
has proven to be an utter failure: appealing to no one so that BOTH camps leave
the Church – those who object to the teachings, and those in search of them but
who never hear them.
This
mother and her children are a perfect example. She is Catholic at heart, but protestant
in practice because she has been denied the authentic faith in reality. What a terrible
condemnation of church leaders and their inept plans that such a situation
exists.
The
Catholic faith possesses the fullness of the truth, as we laid out for her, referring
to Scripture and Tradition and walking her and her children through salvation
history.
She
said, quite correctly, that so many Catholics – including priests – have no
passion or hunger for souls… so what recourse did she have? She said very
plainly: she wanted her children to grow up with a love for Jesus.
Her
words stand as witness against so much that has transpired in the last 50 plus
years in the Church. And they are echoed in the recent words of the Holy
Father. Pope Francis said at a Mass last week in reference to lukewarm
Catholics:
“These Christians are not
united in the Church, they do not walk in God's presence, they don’t have the
security of the Holy Spirit, they do not make up the Church. They are Christians
of good sense only: they keep their distance…to quote the words of Jesus in Revelation,
'lukewarm Christians'. The indifference that is in the Church ... They walk only
in the presence of common sense common sense ... that worldly prudence.”
You constantly
hear form the lukewarm clerical set that you shouldn’t beat people over the
head, that you have to take people where they are, that we are all at different
places in our spiritual journey. These expressions are cop-outs, pure and
simple. They allow the priest and the bishop to hide behind the vague idea that
people are not ready to hear the truth yet; that we will bring them along
eventually.
But
EVENTUALLY never comes. What is happening is that the lowest common denominator
is being played to at the expense of those who DO want to hear the truth in all
its naked glory and terrible earth shattering reality. THESE people are being –
have been – driven from the church into communities that only have partial
truth. They come to the Catholic Church for gold and are handed peanut butter; or
to quote Our Lord, they ask for bread and are handed a serpent.
In St.
John’s Apocalypse, Our Blessed Lord warns very clearly that the lukewarm he will
vomit from His mouth. Too many people in the Church these days - and not just
those sitting in the pews – most especially those NOT sitting in the pews – have
had their faith grown cold. They are, as Cardinal Oulette has said, constantly
measuring the preaching of the gospel against the political correctness of declaring
it and anticipating the consequences. People will be offended; some people will
leave; the pews will empty they say. Well, here’s a newsflash. That’s already
happening with people who WANT to hear the truth.
For the
sake of those who want to hear the fullness of the truth…for the Love of God…say
it.
And
just in case you are wondering, the woman and her family came to Mass with us
this morning, her 20-something son is going to be getting in touch with the
priest, who is very solid, and reconnecting with the Faith of which he was
deprived during his youth by the lukewarm.
Keep
him and her in your prayers.
Oh man! Great Vortex.
ReplyDeleteTwo places in this video I have experienced what Michael describes:
About the 5:30 mark (I believe) he laments of how certain Catholics (read: clergy) tell us how we (the fired-up Catholics, if-you-will) should not be beating people over the head with the faith (or, in my case, "with your orthodoxy" - LOL!).
The other place I encountered something he said was about the 6:00 mark (or so):
I was speaking to a priest about...well, about how we should be giving the flock more of the hard-core truths of the faith. He said to me, "Well Kevin, we don't want to run them off." I replied, "I've got news for you, father. They're going anyway!" (and we have *several* folks here who "double dip" - meaning they go across town to a "church-of-what's-happenin'-now" because they experience, to a degree, the same thing the woman Michael mentions in the video... they get "fed" - some never return)
Yet, it is status quo, for the most part, in our diocese. Even after getting a new bishop a couple of years ago.
God help us.
CK
CK - I can so relate! The standard (ungrammatical) line in the parish office when I worked there was "we've got to meet people where they're at". But I had actually had a PROTESTANT pastor who liked to say, "Yeah, God loves you just the way you are, but He loves you too much to leave you there."
ReplyDeleteIsn't SAD, very sad that people are leacing the Holy Catholic Church ....all 4 of my adult children no longer attend. As a their mother it breaks my heart to the core..I do pray for them daily and hope and pray for there return.
ReplyDeleteI do believe that there is a failure on the part of the clergy and I am sure they are scared to preach the complete TRUTH for fear that people in the pews will leave ..but they are already leaving as Michael Voris points out .
I applaud him for his gut wrenching statement : " For the Love of God give us the TRUTH. Please Fr. Nice give me the TRUTH and only the TRUTH not the watered down version...THE TRUTH and nothing but the TRUTH.
Let us pray and do penance for our dearly beloved
priests and for all clergy ...God Have mercy on the Lukewarm ..set us on Fire with the Holy Spirit so that all of us will burn and hunger for ONLY the complete TRUTH!
AMEN, Jeannie. I have two daughters-in-law, a step-son, and a granddaughter who have effectively left the Church. It is so very sad...and scary! Prayer and penance, yes.
ReplyDeleteI must be very lucky in that the two priests in our parish in Hyattsville, Maryland often remind me of Michael Voris. We have a beautiful, respectful mass with wonderful music and challenging, orthodox sermons. In Maryland!!!!
ReplyDeleteI have not watched the clip yet but based on the posting, I can confirm that the apathy on the part of the church (the entire community) was a significant reason why I am no longer a Roman Catholic.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was an altar boy (during Jr and High School), the priests were vibrant and outgoing outside of mass. However, during mass they were solemn and Somber-it felt like someone died. It struck me back then that if they really believed in the resurrection of Jesus, then they should have a hard time restraining themselves from shouting with joy. But since no evidence of that, I started to think that they didn't believe and they didn't care. They had more enthusiasm about their golf game or a dinner outing.
During college, the students at the Newman Center were starving to learn about the Bible. But all we got was 2-3 presentations a year. Oh, how we wanted to know more about the bible. Finally, I just started to read it on my own.
When my marriage failed almost immediately after the wedding, the priest told me thought my wife was crazy from the start. But he didn't want to tell me-however, he was willing to talk about an anulment at that point (only weeks after the wedding!).
And when I tried to get some Catholic marriage counseling, I was shocked to find out no one offered it. Only for addictions, alcoholism, violence. The "expert" from my church (the pastor) told me to come back after the divorce and he had software that could tell me why the marriage failed.
The Baptist church that I attended for several years was so different. Most everyone was into Jesus and praying. It reminded me of my younger days (pre-V2).
There is little "fire" in the RC Church today, except when the govt starts coming down on the clergy or $ is needed. And the witness of so many of the Bishops and pastors and priests opposing Catholic beliefs or being apathetic sends the message no one really cares about the beliefs/dogma. No problem giving HOLY communion to politicians who are living in sin or support abortion, etc.
The bottom line is that the product is old, stale and doesnt live up to the hype. Lots of empty talk. Perhaps if the Church started to get serious, people would take it seriously. But at this point, there are lots of people who are no longer interested and don't believe the dogmas because it appears that Church doesn't either.
Actually, fRED, it sounds like those priest had the right idea! We don't need more "jumping for joy" in Mass, we need the reverence due the Lord of the Universe. The joy we feel can come out in our everyday lives, but the profound awe and reverence we owe our Lord and God is reflected in the rubrics of the Mass. Solemnity is called for in public liturgy, or it devolves into giddy foolishness. Been there, done that, and not necessarily in a Catholic church!
ReplyDeleteBrother Juniper, it's good to know that it's happening SOMEWHERE!!
ReplyDeleteI was lucky enough to see Michael Voris speaking in Melbourne last weekend. I live a few minutes down the road from where he spoke, and I got to see him on the saturday evening. The place was packed, and he was excellent.
ReplyDeleteRegarding the feeding of the flock, I can so relate to that. It was only when I attended a TLM for the first time that I understood about Jesus being the Water of Life, and I can honestly say that attending Mass feeds my soul.
Baptist church, evangelical Protestant services and NO don't do that for me.
What these lukewarm priests don't understand is that you have to actually offer the Food. So many catholics are uncatechised that they honestly don't know what they're missing out on. I didn't.
We went to a church literally around the corner which now has an EF Mass (Low) every sunday morning at 7am. The priest gives a good homily, and in this one he spoke of how the devil can be like a mosquito always buzzing around you, trying to tempt you away from God and into sin.
I thought it was a cute metaphor, and it was simple enough for a child to grasp.
Indeed, weeks later, my 10yo remembers and has brought it up in conversation a few times.
That particular church is packed out for the main Mass (I've attended the NO there once), and the priest is quite orthodox, to the extent that when he began there a few years back his first job was clearing out a lot of the NO rubbish. The parishioners got a big shock. :)
It was one of those parishioners who told me that, and had also arranged the venue for Michael to speak at.
I'm reminded of the movie Field of Dreams' tagline: If you build it, they will come. Indeed, feed the flock and they will come.
In the meantime, enjoy this little Easter Sunday homily.
Great story, Nilk! Thanks for sharing!
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