As expected, the Church of Nice et al. responded to MV’s
Vortex episode which suggested that the substantial salaries of the primary
players in the mainstream Catholic media make them dependent on the approval of
the powers-that-be; that means that reporting negative news about those same “powers”
is compromised.
The people MV is talking to and about seem to just not get it. They think he was criticizing them for having substantial salaries! MV clarifies that in the sequel, embedded below. He hammers home the point:
THE POINT is this – salaries are being made from the protection of the status quo – and THE STATUS QUO isn’t cutting it in the face of a worldwide apostasy.
…[W]hen the shepherds drop the ball, intentionally or not, it is the Church which suffers.
This is why Catholic media have a DUTY, a moral obligation, to point out these shortcomings – to explain them, so Catholics in the pews wake up to the crisis, can understand it, take some kind of corrective action – at the very least in their own lives.
… It’s not an issue of how much a person makes – the issue is, however much it is, it’s good enough for them or they would go get another job. That said, they are now dependent, meaning NOT INdependent to be able to say what needs to be said about the deplorable problems in the Church – spiritually and temporally. This is what makes them – to use Pope Benedict’s words – “professional Catholics”. Not that they make money and earn their livings doing Catholic “stuff”, but that they are living off the institution – an institution they will not ever criticize, but is in dire need of having light shed on these problems.
But the Church of Nice doesn’t get it. One blogger (I’m not even going to mention his name, nor link to his post – you can find it if you want to, I’m sure) paints MV as a “controversial self-appointed prophet” and gives this analysis of MV’s personality flaws:
There is a certain type of personality that is never happy unless it has an enemy, and the enemy they like best are the ones around their own table… A little group gathers together and they all feel good about their group because they’re right… [T]hey begin to blame everyone else for being wrong, for being heretics, for being apostates. Then they feel snug and warm and good about themselves and their little religious group for a little while until the next “enemy” appears. Then they can go on the attack again with their smug self righteousness.
Hear that, all you faithful readers of this blog who seek the Truth, good liturgy, and a cleansing and renewal of the Church? That blogger is talking about YOU. He’s not just attacking MV; he’s saying that those of us who support MV, who agree with him, are just smug, self-righteous, nit-picking nattering nabobs out to stir the pot. We don’t care about the Church; we just care about making ourselves look good. He’s another of those who can say “I’m not against traditionalists; some of my best friends are traditional”, and then turn around and say it’s those sourpuss ol’ “rad-trad” traditionalists that give the rest of them a bad name. And who, might I ask, makes the call as to when a good “traditionalist” has crossed the line to being a bad “rad trad”?
That blogger’s little piece of psychoanalysis is purely judgmental. Now, “judgmental” is a word that is often misused, but I think it applies here. The author imparts motives to a broad group of people he cannot possibly know, and implies that he can discern exactly what is going on inside of our heads, that he can read our thoughts. “They feel good about themselves because they’re right” – how does he know this?! What was that about a “self-appointed prophet”?
So, was MV being “judgmental”, too, in supposing that dependency on salaries blinds some members of the Catholic mainstream media? Well, certainly MV cannot know what goes on in the minds of those individuals. But he can point to the correlation between salaries that are at least somewhat dependent on the person being on the bishops’ “approved” and the mainstream Catholic media’s reluctance to take the bishops to task for failures in leadership. Whether or not the blindness is intentional or subliminal is another question. The point is, the bishops are getting a pass from the mainstream Catholic media, and there is an apparent motive. The emperor has no clothes, but no one wants to say so.
The above-mentioned blogger is not the only one to misinterpret what MV said in the August 29 Vortex. Others say similar things. Sadly, I didn’t see any of them saying, “Maybe MV has a point. Maybe we should consider whether we’re actually turning a blind eye to the crisis in the Church…”
For a great rebuttal to the Church of Nice, be sure to read
this post, and also watch the Vortex below, where MV clarifies the point.
The
script:
There
is a mass apostasy in the Church today. Most – meaning the vast majority of human
beings who call themselves Catholic – simply reject the faith. In politics we
call this treason. In religion we call it apostasy: the rejection of the tenets
of your own faith.
But how
do we speak of those in politics who do not reject the national beliefs – they actually
accept them – BUT they aid and abet the traitors by NEVER talking about them or
even acknowledging their existence?
This is
the case in the Church these days with the very people you would imagine would feel
moral obligation to do so – the Catholic media establishment. This was the
point of last week’s Vortex where we spoke of Catholic media people and their
salaries. No one cares what someone makes. That’s not the point.
THE
POINT is this – salaries are being made from the protection of the status quo –
and
THE
STATUS QUO isn’t cutting it in the face of a worldwide apostasy. Many of these
guys – heck all of them – do a great job laying bare the evil of the culture, the
ignorance of other faiths in relation to Catholicism. Again: not the point. THE Point is that that
for all their fine work in those areas – directing people to the Church and
away from a degenerate culture – what good is it if the Church they are coming
to is rife with corruption, both moral and spiritual on a scale unprecedented
in her 2000 years?
From a
large number of homosexual clergy, to clergy who may not themselves be homosexual
but are supportive of the agenda, to radial dissidents who preach garbage
Sunday
after Sunday to milquetoast bored men who never want to rock the boat so they preach
God is Love – but never tell you about God or explain what REAL love is.The
Church
has been drowned under an ocean of pithy sayings and no real hard conviction.
And who
is responsible for this? Well, while there is certainly enough blame to go
around – us included – there is just no way that the bishops of the Church, in
whom virtually every drop of authority and power resides, can escape a lion’s
share of the blame. They are the leaders. Period. Did they CAUSE the initial
problem? No, at least not THESE particular bishops – they were in seminary and
were just baby priests when the wheels came off the wagon.
But
they are responsible now for letting the status quo continue. Why don’t they
remove errant priests from parishes? Why do they work so hard to marginalize
anything traditional from emerging among the rubble? Why do they let rebellious
clergy and nuns continue to run the show in parish after parish? Why do they
give them such free reign in their chanceries over all kinds of departments
that have massive influence over the daily life of the average unsuspecting Catholic.
Leaders
are vested with power and authority and people who live under that authority expect
it to be exercised in a way which protects them. They are too busy with their
daily
lives
in the secular world to do anything else but.
So when
the shepherds drop the ball, intentionally or not, it is the Church which
suffers.
This is
why Catholic media have a DUTY – a moral obligation – to point out these shortcomings,
to explain them, so Catholics in the pews wake up to the crisis, can understand
it, take some kind of corrective action – at the very least in their own lives.
Wasn’t
this the WHOLE point of what Mother Angelica used to do and say on EWTN when it
was SHE who ran it and not the current leadership? She criticized almost
non-stop the American hierarchy for their massive shortcomings.
But
that sort of discussion has disappeared into oblivion at EWTN these days,
replaced by the Church of Nice discussions that refuse to say ANYTHING
controversial. And that same lead has been followed by every other major Catholic
media outlet.
But
when Catholic media WILL NOT talk about these things because they are beholden to
the bishops for their paychecks – whatever amount they are makes no difference –
then they are aiding and abetting in the rebellion – at least in this regard. And
understand – beholden to them for their paychecks or incomes doesn’t mean the bishop
actually signs the check. It means they are so closely tied to the
establishment that to buck the system and criticize all this evil in the Church
would absolutely mean the end of their careers and incomes – again, however
much those incomes are.
The old
saying don’t bite the hand that feeds you comes to mind.
It’s
not an issue of how much a person makes – the issue is, however much it is,
it’s good enough for them or they would go get another job. That said, they are
now dependent, meaning NOT INdependent to be able to say what needs to be said
about the deplorable problems in the Church – spiritually and temporally. This
is what makes them – to use Pope Benedict’s words – “professional Catholics”.
Not that they make money and earn their livings doing Catholic “stuff”, but
that they are living off the institution – an institution they will not ever
criticize, but is in dire need of having light shed on these problems.
We get emails
here by the hundreds of horrible stories of people having fallen away from the
faith because of things done in the Church regarding the faith – priests
failing to tell them the truth of the faith and so forth. It’s inconceivable to
us that all the other Catholic media types don’t get the same type of emails
and letters and phone calls. If they don’t we’d be happy to share ours with
them.
These
spiritual calamities which have befallen the Church are the responsibility of
the bishops. Period. That’s why Our Lord established a hierarchical Church, so
we would be protected and fed by the shepherds. When that is not happening, of
course the sheep have to say something.
But if
some of the sheep with loudest bullhorns conveniently ignore the crisis because
they have a dog in the fight – then that IN AND OF ITSELF becomes ANOTHER
issue. The time for half-truths has come to an end and a simple honest look
around the church these days reveals that sad reality.
Pray
for the whole Church my fellow Catholics. We are being trampled by the culture,
by and large, at the end of the day, because WE are allowing it – first and
foremost, in our own ranks.
Wellll....
ReplyDeleteI have spent too much of this morning exploring the issues and subject raised by MV. Besides all of the time that is now gone, I am now faced with the conundrum of having to reallocate my donations.
I have supported CRS unthinkingly for several years, assuming it was a good organization. Guess I was mistaken. I found the ALL website has a helpful rating of many charities regarding their Pro-Life positions.
In the context of bringing to light the CRS situation, I am grateful for the dialogue. For sure, no one is perfect but RCs need to live a more authentic life in order to be a light to the world.
I don't remember there being Professional Catholics during the 50s and 60s. Perhaps if the RC Church was doing its job, there would be no call for such a career path.
It's taken me hours to play catch up. I should be cleaning the house before going to work. Sigh...
ReplyDeleteThe fact that the Patheos crowd is reacting like a viper nest being teased with rattling paper tells me MV is on the right track.
I'm very disappointed in Fr L. Very!
This is my comment over at Carol's place:
I wasn't online last night so I'm playing catch up. As I told Dr. Jay many days ago, "Wait until the Patheos crowd sees MV"s video" (I still have to go watch the newest one.)
I think Connecticut Catholic really nailed it - as have you. I particularly liked CC's timeline.
I happened to see Kathy Schiffer's bleg for CA when it only had 9 comments - all of which were negative. I mentioned to my husband at breakfast that I'm sure she was gobsmacked by the reception her plea was eliciting.
I never heard the CA show bashing trads and could care less what they said, but it obviously ticked off a bunch of people. It's been years since I've even been to CA.
Here's the real point - for me, at least: I get what they (CA) may be saying about the really radical trads. Yes, they do exist, but are such a small little group that to even speak about them is a waste of oxygen.
On the other hand, the present day institutional Church is turning a blind eye to most of the shenanigans going on. They absolutely refuse to acknowledge the Marxist influences that crept into the Church many generations ago.
If you step back and look at the larger picture of what is going on politically and link it up with what is happening in the Church it becomes much more clear.
When you try to present incontrovertible proof of these things the Patheos crowd and their sycophants immediately label you a conspiracy theorist or poke fun and ask where your tinfoil hat is.
Saul Alinsky would be proud...
I've been playing catch up all morning, too. There's 200+ comments over there on Fr. Longenecker's blog. Better get to reading...sigh...
ReplyDeleteCan't we all be traditional Catholics? That's all we were before Vatican II.
Go, Michael! I'll always stick up for Michael. He's telling us the truth, folks! I'm so grateful for it, too. If there's one thing I look forward to every day, it's listening to him.
He's the kind of man I would look for in a husband. Where are the men like Michael? Anyone?
And Pope Francis was right to condemn careerism and all that. Lots of that going on, isn't there?
God bless.
~Hannah
If you dig deeper in the tax returns which were posted on the web, of EWTN's at least, it shows that donations constitute almost 100% of income, with very little investment and other income. Mother Angelica always said that she didn't take a dime from the bishops and most don orations were 5 and 10 dollars. If that is still true, and I am guessing it is, then in what way is EWTN, and probably Catholic Answers, depending on the status quo? The status quo is providing the viewers what they want in orthodox programs. Its seems to me EWTN is doing just that. You get what you pay for.
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteSo Catholic Answers and EWTN etc. say "we don't take any money from bishops" and, therefore, Michael's Voris' allegations are demonstrably false. Well try this on.
SUPPOSE that Catholic Answers did precisely the same things that Michael Voris does, i.e., hold the feet of the hierarchy to the fire and expose the state of crisis in the Church? How many of their apologists would be welcome to speak on diocesan property? How many guest appearances would there on be on mainstream Catholic media outlets, like EWTN and Catholic radio? Would there even BE a "Catholic Answers Live" show? How might donations to Catholic Answers be affected if it were publicly known that they were "not an approved apostolate"? NONE of this is "money from the bishops" but IS a consequence of "not playing ball" with the bishops. So, yes, it IS possible to speculate whether refusal to expose corruption in the Church might be influenced by money and access.
If EWTN continued on the path of Mother Angelica, who was VERY critical of the hierarchy, how many bishops or priests would appear (or be allowed to appear) on the air?
Those are the consequences that Michael Voris must endure. He is banned from appearances on EWTN and Catholic radio. It's the exceptional bishop and priest who agrees to be on the air with him. Since his diocese goes out of its way to advertise that he is "not approved," this makes it necessary that those who invite him to speak to find locations not on diocesan property.
To piously intone that you "don't take any money from bishops" and therefore, Michael Voris' charges are false is ... disingenuous in the fullest sense of the word. All the squealing from the targets of these Vortex episodes is proof that Voris hit his targets. He's holding up a mirror to THEM and they don't like what they see.
Voris isn't banned from my Facebook page or blog. Several times I have said he is welcome and will be treated courteously. Perhaps he missed that, but perhaps now (with all this stink) he will learn of that invitation (conveyed by you or someone else). I'm also willing to talk to him in person, as I expressed to you on my blog.
ReplyDeletePlease see further comments of mine on a related issue (that deals with this point of yours on a "deeper" level) under my blog post:
http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2013/09/preliminary-investigations-into-michael.html?showComment=1378104437311#c2315097265152167869