tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1531497517644951122.post67205206486466764..comments2024-03-21T00:15:48.886-07:00Comments on Philothea on Phire: Protecting the Status Quo: VortexJayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09927474235629912604noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1531497517644951122.post-18037239155140013222013-09-02T00:05:28.739-07:002013-09-02T00:05:28.739-07:00Voris isn't banned from my Facebook page or bl...Voris isn't banned from my Facebook page or blog. Several times I have said he is welcome and will be treated courteously. Perhaps he missed that, but perhaps now (with all this stink) he will learn of that invitation (conveyed by you or someone else). I'm also willing to talk to him in person, as I expressed to you on my blog.<br /><br />Please see further comments of mine on a related issue (that deals with this point of yours on a "deeper" level) under my blog post:<br /><br />http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2013/09/preliminary-investigations-into-michael.html?showComment=1378104437311#c2315097265152167869<br /><br />Dave Armstronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07771661758539438173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1531497517644951122.post-85149451350014842032013-08-31T19:52:30.335-07:002013-08-31T19:52:30.335-07:00Dear Anonymous,
So Catholic Answers and EWTN etc....Dear Anonymous,<br /><br />So Catholic Answers and EWTN etc. say "we don't take any money from bishops" and, therefore, Michael's Voris' allegations are demonstrably false. Well try this on.<br /><br />SUPPOSE that Catholic Answers did precisely the same things that Michael Voris does, i.e., hold the feet of the hierarchy to the fire and expose the state of crisis in the Church? How many of their apologists would be welcome to speak on diocesan property? How many guest appearances would there on be on mainstream Catholic media outlets, like EWTN and Catholic radio? Would there even BE a "Catholic Answers Live" show? How might donations to Catholic Answers be affected if it were publicly known that they were "not an approved apostolate"? NONE of this is "money from the bishops" but IS a consequence of "not playing ball" with the bishops. So, yes, it IS possible to speculate whether refusal to expose corruption in the Church might be influenced by money and access.<br /><br />If EWTN continued on the path of Mother Angelica, who was VERY critical of the hierarchy, how many bishops or priests would appear (or be allowed to appear) on the air?<br /><br />Those are the consequences that Michael Voris must endure. He is banned from appearances on EWTN and Catholic radio. It's the exceptional bishop and priest who agrees to be on the air with him. Since his diocese goes out of its way to advertise that he is "not approved," this makes it necessary that those who invite him to speak to find locations not on diocesan property. <br /><br />To piously intone that you "don't take any money from bishops" and therefore, Michael Voris' charges are false is ... disingenuous in the fullest sense of the word. All the squealing from the targets of these Vortex episodes is proof that Voris hit his targets. He's holding up a mirror to THEM and they don't like what they see.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16785999685192600412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1531497517644951122.post-68080915441632085452013-08-31T14:47:14.917-07:002013-08-31T14:47:14.917-07:00If you dig deeper in the tax returns which were po...If you dig deeper in the tax returns which were posted on the web, of EWTN's at least, it shows that donations constitute almost 100% of income, with very little investment and other income. Mother Angelica always said that she didn't take a dime from the bishops and most don orations were 5 and 10 dollars. If that is still true, and I am guessing it is, then in what way is EWTN, and probably Catholic Answers, depending on the status quo? The status quo is providing the viewers what they want in orthodox programs. Its seems to me EWTN is doing just that. You get what you pay for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1531497517644951122.post-44791817413890766102013-08-31T11:56:05.602-07:002013-08-31T11:56:05.602-07:00I've been playing catch up all morning, too. T...I've been playing catch up all morning, too. There's 200+ comments over there on Fr. Longenecker's blog. Better get to reading...sigh...<br /><br />Can't we all be traditional Catholics? That's all we were before Vatican II.<br /><br />Go, Michael! I'll always stick up for Michael. He's telling us the truth, folks! I'm so grateful for it, too. If there's one thing I look forward to every day, it's listening to him.<br /><br />He's the kind of man I would look for in a husband. Where are the men like Michael? Anyone?<br /><br />And Pope Francis was right to condemn careerism and all that. Lots of that going on, isn't there?<br /><br />God bless.<br /><br />~HannahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1531497517644951122.post-87025587704841728122013-08-31T09:25:55.481-07:002013-08-31T09:25:55.481-07:00It's taken me hours to play catch up. I shoul...It's taken me hours to play catch up. I should be cleaning the house before going to work. Sigh...<br /><br />The fact that the Patheos crowd is reacting like a viper nest being teased with rattling paper tells me MV is on the right track. <br /><br />I'm very disappointed in Fr L. Very!<br /><br />This is my comment over at Carol's place:<br /><br />I wasn't online last night so I'm playing catch up. As I told Dr. Jay many days ago, "Wait until the Patheos crowd sees MV"s video" (I still have to go watch the newest one.)<br /><br />I think Connecticut Catholic really nailed it - as have you. I particularly liked CC's timeline.<br /><br />I happened to see Kathy Schiffer's bleg for CA when it only had 9 comments - all of which were negative. I mentioned to my husband at breakfast that I'm sure she was gobsmacked by the reception her plea was eliciting.<br /><br />I never heard the CA show bashing trads and could care less what they said, but it obviously ticked off a bunch of people. It's been years since I've even been to CA.<br /><br />Here's the real point - for me, at least: I get what they (CA) may be saying about the really radical trads. Yes, they do exist, but are such a small little group that to even speak about them is a waste of oxygen.<br /><br />On the other hand, the present day institutional Church is turning a blind eye to most of the shenanigans going on. They absolutely refuse to acknowledge the Marxist influences that crept into the Church many generations ago.<br /><br />If you step back and look at the larger picture of what is going on politically and link it up with what is happening in the Church it becomes much more clear.<br /><br />When you try to present incontrovertible proof of these things the Patheos crowd and their sycophants immediately label you a conspiracy theorist or poke fun and ask where your tinfoil hat is.<br /><br />Saul Alinsky would be proud...<br />Adriennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01562944653624224107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1531497517644951122.post-34036617129820374112013-08-31T08:52:13.014-07:002013-08-31T08:52:13.014-07:00Wellll....
I have spent too much of this morning ...Wellll....<br /><br />I have spent too much of this morning exploring the issues and subject raised by MV. Besides all of the time that is now gone, I am now faced with the conundrum of having to reallocate my donations.<br /><br />I have supported CRS unthinkingly for several years, assuming it was a good organization. Guess I was mistaken. I found the ALL website has a helpful rating of many charities regarding their Pro-Life positions. <br /><br />In the context of bringing to light the CRS situation, I am grateful for the dialogue. For sure, no one is perfect but RCs need to live a more authentic life in order to be a light to the world.<br /><br />I don't remember there being Professional Catholics during the 50s and 60s. Perhaps if the RC Church was doing its job, there would be no call for such a career path.fREDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01808305520167870728noreply@blogger.com