tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1531497517644951122.post9150817620444563610..comments2024-03-21T00:15:48.886-07:00Comments on Philothea on Phire: Venerable Fulton Sheen on Birth ControlJayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09927474235629912604noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1531497517644951122.post-55654718775196651992013-08-06T23:42:27.195-07:002013-08-06T23:42:27.195-07:00I believe that comes from his book Peace of Soul. ...I believe that comes from his book Peace of Soul. So happens I was reading that essay just yesterday.<br /><br />Mrs. MikeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1531497517644951122.post-65975563630513367782012-07-11T08:30:11.133-07:002012-07-11T08:30:11.133-07:00Thanks, Terry! Fulton Sheen is another one of thos...Thanks, Terry! Fulton Sheen is another one of those treasures I've only recently discovered.<br /><br />"Father craft" and "mother craft" makes perfect sense, now that I "hear" it. At first I thought he was making a little joke, that moms and dads have to be "crabs" at times (at least in their children's eyes) when they have to discipline them. But he didn't even have the hint of a chuckle in his voice, so I really wondered. I think I'll correct it in the post.Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09927474235629912604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1531497517644951122.post-29457588130159154972012-07-11T07:40:58.423-07:002012-07-11T07:40:58.423-07:00This talk by Bishop Sheen, and 40+ others, is avai...This talk by Bishop Sheen, and 40+ others, is available from http://www.bishopsheen.org/ on a single CD (all MP3 format so they can fit on one CD). PLUS, all the talks have been transcribed in book form: "Your Life is Worth Living," available from the same web site.<br /><br />Unfortunately, the paragraph above ending in "father crab[?]" etc is not transcribed in the book. That whole paragraph is skipped over, probably because the author, too, couldn't make sense of "father crab." But the paragraph ends with an emphasis on the mysteries unfolded through the training of children, so I propose that what Bishop Sheen says is not "father crab" and "mother crab," but "father craft" and "mother craft," as in "the craft of mothering and fathering." That's what it sounded like to me, anyway.<br /><br />For anyone who treasures the words of Bishop Sheen, that CD and companion book are "must haves." The entire series of talks, including the one on "birth control," were unscripted. Bishop Sheen just sat down in front of a microphone and ... spoke. Without notes. The series is from 1965. From the introduction to the series and the book:<br /><br />"We have had alternatives in making this work. One alternative was to write out everything I was going to say and then read it to you. The other alternative was to study, meditate, and then talk out of the fullness of my heart and without notes. That is the way I have chosen."<br /><br />When you read the above talk, and realize that this was simply presented, spoken, from the fullness of his heart, it is even more amazing!<br /><br />Venerable Fulton Sheen, Pray for us!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16785999685192600412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1531497517644951122.post-51015002036170256622012-07-10T05:57:42.931-07:002012-07-10T05:57:42.931-07:00I've started reading "Three to Get Marrie...I've started reading "Three to Get Married", too! Archbishop Sheen really has a way of presenting marriage that encourages an aspiring to all that leads to our holiness within in.Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09927474235629912604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1531497517644951122.post-80369326979270461032012-07-09T21:53:41.789-07:002012-07-09T21:53:41.789-07:00"If one could give a definition of love in th..."If one could give a definition of love in the light of the Trinity and the Incarnation, it might be that love is mutual self-giving which ends in self-recovery. It is mutual self-giving because no one is good unless he gives. But if love were just mutual self-giving, it could end in exhaustion. Therefore, love is a mutual self-giving which ends in self-recovery.<br />In the Trinity, there is the giving of the Father to the Son, and of the Son to the Holy Spirit, and there is the self-recovery in the sense that the Holy Spirit is the bond which unites Father and Son…the unity of love.<br />So too it is with husband and wife. There is the mutual self-giving of husband and wife and that mutual self-giving ends in self-recovery…which is the child."<br /><br />This is an amazing quote from Archbishop Sheen. I wish he would elaborate further. He seems to be saying here (and further down below..."The child becomes the bond of union between husband and wife") that the mutual self-giving of the spouses in the marital act is not to be radically differentiated from the procreative meaning. In other words, such mutual self-giving requires a terminus... an end, which is the child whom the spouses desire to be.<br />Some of the lines of thought in this talk are also found in Three To Get Married.<br />Thanks, Jay, for transcribing this!Fr. W. M. Gardnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1531497517644951122.post-21696040949136194782012-07-09T14:59:55.587-07:002012-07-09T14:59:55.587-07:00I think he makes marriage and the duty of motherho...I think he makes marriage and the duty of motherhood sound very noble indeed...which of course they are!Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09927474235629912604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1531497517644951122.post-60185737534474765412012-07-09T13:04:07.577-07:002012-07-09T13:04:07.577-07:00I love Fulton Sheen. What he writes about marriage...I love Fulton Sheen. What he writes about marriage is very romantic. I for one think birth control has nearly killed romance. I just finished a book which chronicles the eugenics movement from Malthus to the present. The whole idea of affording children and planning your family is Malthusian propaganda.Sue Anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1531497517644951122.post-80249197370590738532012-07-09T10:22:16.558-07:002012-07-09T10:22:16.558-07:00And people think Theology of the Body says somethi...And people think Theology of the Body says something new and "liberating." Heck, it doesn't say AS MUCH as Bishop Sheen! Absolutely inspiring!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16785999685192600412noreply@blogger.com