tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1531497517644951122.post6360608848219862188..comments2024-03-21T00:15:48.886-07:00Comments on Philothea on Phire: STILL Sitting in the Back of the Bus: Diocese of BakerJayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09927474235629912604noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1531497517644951122.post-20735349564729262092013-04-28T07:12:15.505-07:002013-04-28T07:12:15.505-07:00I am so sorry. I was so excited when Bishop Cary w...I am so sorry. I was so excited when Bishop Cary was named Bishop of Baker. I know about his background as a priest. I still have hope that he will come around. We have to keep praying.<br /><br />BillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1531497517644951122.post-30554740347371005762013-04-27T20:41:03.378-07:002013-04-27T20:41:03.378-07:00Actually the more I think about it the more I am e...Actually the more I think about it the more I am excited to live during this time of intra Church conflict. Just wish I were young enough to be around for the conclusion. It may be my naturally combative spirit but, just like with our current government, I am convinced that we are headed for a show down. It won't be pretty and we may wind up with two American Catholic Churches...one Catholic and one catholic. And the Catholic Church might be much smaller than the other one. But like the Marines I prefer a few good, faithful, orthodox folks over the cinos any day. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1531497517644951122.post-4177363787617594382013-04-27T19:47:51.783-07:002013-04-27T19:47:51.783-07:00I've begun to believe that we need to pray for...I've begun to believe that we need to pray for the conversion of our bishops to the Catholic Faith. If they were truly Catholic, they could not be hostile -- and that IS the right word -- to the Traditional Latin Mass, because the Traditional Latin Mass is, if nothing else, an undeniable expression of the authentic Catholic Faith. To be hostile to the Traditional Latin Mass, therefore, is to be hostile to the authentic Catholic Faith. I can understand aesthetic discomforts, but I cannot understand hostility. That can only be of the devil.<br /><br />When clowns, or balloons, or tabernacles in closets, or banners, or any number of embarrassments are not only tolerated but welcome at so many Masses by these same bishops who are hostile to the Traditional Latin Mass, what other evidence do we need that such bishops are no longer faithful or believing Catholics (if they ever were)? It is no wonder that so many people question whether their Masses and other sacraments are valid: do our clergy even believe any more? Can they truly be said to "intend what the Church intends" when their words and actions suggest something else (can one truly be said to believe in the Real Presence and wear a cheesehead in the sanctuary?)? <br /><br />I don't live in Bend, or Oregon, so I have nothing to lose in saying that, from the outside, neither Bishop Skylstad nor Bishop Cary sound like there would be enough evidence to convict either of them of Catholicism. It's shocking when the only way you can preserve your faith in Bishops as Successors to the Apostles is to remember that Judas was an Apostle. So many seem to be Successors in his line.<br /><br />Prefer the Novus Ordo? Fine. An authentic, faithful Catholic can prefer the Novus Ordo. Show hostility to the Traditional Latin Mass? No, you are either too ignorant of the Traditional Latin Mass to make such a judgment, or you are not an authentic, faithful Catholic. If the former, then bless yourself and learn; if the latter, then repent and convert to the Catholic Faith.<br /><br />We are truly living in apocalyptic times. Your bishops better change direction or they'll wind up where they're heading. With you, I will pray for them, and all the others like them: shepherds in wolves clothing.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16785999685192600412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1531497517644951122.post-51023797986408763062013-04-27T19:28:25.518-07:002013-04-27T19:28:25.518-07:00Those of us who live in a Diocese which has a patt...Those of us who live in a Diocese which has a pattern and practice of opposing the offering of Mass in the EF have a couple of choices. Keep beating our heads against a wall which only results in a headache, later a concussion, and finally a skull fracture or stop trying to do the impossible. If the opportunity to relocate to a EF friendly Diocese presents itself we might jump at the chance. In the meantime we pray for God's will. Continuing to fight will only make the opposition more firm in its resolve because they now look at the issue from a personal rather than Episcopal perspective.<br />Bottom line is that they, not us who have tried, will have to eventually answer for their disobedience to Rome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com